so let me set this question up.
sorry if its long!.
recently my brother-in-law posted a link to a story on facebook: "we're seeing rev 17:12,13 starting to be fulfilled!!
The only person you have any chance of reasoning with is maybe your daughter . It is your duty to start building in her a reasoning mind . Teach her critical thinking skills now so she will not grow up completely brainwashed by the JW's.
Other than that you can't reason with those that refuse to reason.
i ask you all: what does the life of a child look like while he/she attempts to cope with recurrent feelings of impending doom?.
-sab.
I would like to hear how others dealt with the feelings of doom growing up JW .....
I also unwittingly raised my own children as JW and I recall one night my 8 yr old son waking from a dream crying "But I don't want to die at Armaggedon !".......what child has those kinds of nightmares other than witness kids ??
Are Christian kids as terrified of Hell as Witness kids are of Armaggedon ??
i ask you all: what does the life of a child look like while he/she attempts to cope with recurrent feelings of impending doom?.
-sab.
I was one of those children raised with the belief of impending doom always hanging over me . I was born in 1961 . My Mom was convinced the government was just waiting to attack Jehovah's people . Her best friend was German and spoke of the terrible treatment her own Mother was facing in communist Germany ...this in turn made it so much more real that doom was emminent . We would discuss hiding places for literature and my siblings were prepared for when we might be taken away from our Mom for religious persecution . I had nightmares about being in prisoned ....@ 6 yrs old !!! School was a whole new torture for my psyche .....we practiced hiding under our desks in case the Russians attacked !!! As a kid this reinforced the KH scare tactics . Life was f'n doomed and I knew that as fact .
I remember serious depression at 10 .
I hate this religion just for these facts alone . Pisses me off that children are still being affected by the corrupt thoughts of the Watchtower Society .
Thankfully I have let go of those ingrained fears .I no longer suffer depression and I enjoy the little joys of life .
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i've noticed a lot of newbies aren't bothering with long fades from the wt.
good for them, perhaps this younger, more savvy generation are more comfortable sticking two fingers up to the organisation and forcing their families to make the uncomfortable decisions about associating with them.. i applaud you, you were happy to believe it or leave it.. me?
i submitted my last field service report more than 11 years ago and have been 'fading' ever since, and i'm sick of it.
It makes me so sad to see the harsh dilemma so many here face . I remember being so afraid of what 'may' happen in response to my fade . At that time my sons and husband were all very active ....I was terrified as to how they would react . For me I just could not dangle along one more day pretending to be something I no longer was ....I tried to respect them without totally denying my own self . Thankfully it has all worked out .
I hope the same for you I really do . No one should have to waste one more moment cowtowing to anothers belief just to save themselves from the pain of unacceptance for having an alternate opinion .
It has taken about six yrs now and things were not as bad as I had imagined . My immmediate family all followed me out over a period of two yrs . My witness in laws have a limited but cordial relationship with us now . In fact they are visiting this week . We never discuss the fact that our family is no longer active JW's and that we are celebrating holidays ect... They have resolved to treat us as they do other 'worldly ' family . They chose to see us once a yr and limited phone calls . This past visit has been almost normal . There have been some casualties for some family relationships ,but over all it is working .
May you find a way acceptable to you in order to have a measure of peace . Best wishes to you Nicolaou
ok, quick run down of my situation.. .
1. i am not religious.
my now-fiance was raised jw but left the religion about 10 years ago.. 2. we started dating last march, i got pregnant within two weeks.
I grew up in what the Jehovah's Witnesses call a divided household . My Mother was the Witness my Father not . It was a horrible way to be raised ....For one I was in constant conflict emotionally and mentally as to which parent to please . I was taught not to completely trust my own Dasd just because he was not a lover of Jehovah .
The images of the end of the world were etched into my young impressionable mind . Is that something you want for your own child ? To be exposed to religious thinking that teaches unbelievers will have their eyes melt out of their heads ,and the birds of the sky pluck off their flesh during God's great and almighty war against evil and unbelieving mankind ??????
Please reconsider for the sake of your child . Be brutally honest with your boyfriend . Tell him now if you plan on allowing your child to live a normal lifestyle . What if you decide to never allow him to inculcate the child into the religion ? How does he feel about that ? How do you feel about him being away from the family on weekends {while after his reinstatement he will be expected to do field service and attend all meetings } ? You state that you want to show support to him in his religion ....how ever if you ever decide to choose a different religion he will show similar consideration ??
His life will change once he is fully back into the religion ....this is not your average belief system . Yes on appearances it appears to be a morally ,bible based way of life . But the creepy underlying truth is your life becomes subject to a group of men prying and weilding authority over even the most private sides of your life ........
PLEASE PLEASE think very cautiously about the decision you are about to make .
hello people,.
despite the advice given here, i thought it only fair to tell the elders that are calling me to 'help me' with my sexuality, that i dont want their help!
yesterday one called.. he told me that he and another elder would like to speak with me to find out what the situation is.
Be prepared that this indeed is not the end of it for them . That Elder will pow-wow with the other Elders and they will try again to get you to meet . Stick to your guns .
To stop incessant phone calls and questioning I had to send a certified letter to the Elders hinting at legal action if they did not cease /desist .I went to my local Police station and filed a copy of the letter with them also (stating this in the letter to the Elders makes an impact ) . It has been over a year since I sent that letter and so far no one has tried to contact me again .
Wishing you well
i am now sitting at home.
my wife left with my little child.
my fault (i dislike the word "fault", but don't have a better one right now).. it feels strange, relieved and free, at the same time it was all very strange.
INTEL , Does it feel like you can breathe now ? I know once I made my decision and just did it ....it was such a relief . It is good you have some friends already in place to support you through this situation . I have been out for six yrs and have slowly come back into contact with other local faded JWs and df'd ones from my passed . It is nice now to be able to reminese with ones that know my history . You miss that after family and friends start jumping ship .
No matter how hard the transition is .....it is so worth it ......freedom is priceless .
i designed a 4 question personality test that looks at the simple ways you listen to music.. it can determine from those questions your 4 letter mbti code.
from there i included some fun links that goes deeper into the personality traits.. i have yet to try this in a larger forum such as this but was wondering the results and if i can develope this.. .
it may prove useful in my eventual psychology studies.. just follow the link.
ESTP........hmmmmm idk
well that depends on the world population.. .
if he had done it it 1914, he would only have killed 2 billion.. if he had done it in 1960, then he would have killed 3 billion.. if he had done it in 1975 ( so now we know why he didn't) he would only have had 4 billion to kill.. so is the question of when armaggedon will come, related to how many he wants to kill?.
interestingly this site ( but dont bother reading it all, its......well you'll see).
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